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India's nuclear submarine and the Indian Ocean

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Toronto, ON, Canada, — Many invaders have come to India in the last 2,300 years in a bid to loot, conquer and rule. Alexander III of Macedon, popularly known as Alexander the Great, was the first. The British were the last. In between, Muslims ruled India for nearly 700 years.

Each invader brought new warfare technology and strategies. Alexander had organized cavalry and pikes, while the Muslims came with archers on horseback, composite bows and gunpowder. The British had organized military divisions, diplomacy and handheld firearms. On most occasions the new type of warfare caught the Indians by surprise.

Since gaining independence on Aug. 15, 1947, Indians have desired to master the art of military technology. India’s newly commissioned nuclear submarine, launched on July 26 in the southern port of Vishakhapatnam, is an example.

The 367-foot INS Arihant, which means “destroyer of enemies,” will not be operational for another three years, but has already showcased India’s growing power. The United States built missile-launching submarines called “boomers” in the 1970s and 80s, which former U.S. President Ronald Reagan called “peacemakers” because they would balance the Soviet Union’s capability and diminish the threat of war. Similarly, India’s Arihant is expected to balance China’s growing presence in the Indian Ocean.

The INS Arihant, India’s only nuclear submarine, cost a staggering US$2.9 billion to build. The cost exceeded the initial budget due to the added costs of learning its new technologies. Four more similar submarines are planned; one or two are said to be in the advanced stages of construction. But there is no hurry, as one is sufficient for now.

A British nuclear submarine sank Argentina’s battleship, the General Belgrano, and brought a quick end to the Falklands War in 1982. The war lasted 74 days, but the British prevailed because Argentina could not recover from the loss.

The Arihant is an updated model of a Russian nuclear submarine – NATO code-named Charlie II – that India leased in the 1990’s. The Russians retired the last of their Charlie II submarines in 1994, but former Russian President Boris Yeltsin shared its basic design data with India as a gesture of goodwill. However, the Russians did not pass its nuclear reactor technology to India.

The Arihant’s surface and submerged displacement ranges from 6,000 to 7,000 tons compared to the 4,000 to 5,000 tons of Charlie II. Its submerged speed is also higher at 25-35 knots compared to Charlie’s 25-30 knots. The Arihant can dive to 300 meters. Its armaments initially will be 12 Indian-built K-15 missiles with a range of 750 kilometers and six torpedo tubes. Later, the missile tubes will be fitted with nuclear-tipped missiles with a range of 3,500 kilometers.

Building the 85-megawatt pressurized water reactor that powers the Arihant posed tremendous problems. India’s Bhabha Atomic Research Center contributed the core design, uranium enrichment and related functions while the Defense Research and Development Organization handled the rest of its construction. Miniaturizing the design to fit the submarine was the main problem that BARC faced. Without Russian technical help it would have taken another five years to complete. A replica of this reactor has been operating on land for the past four years.

Building the hull was not easy either. Indian scientists lacked metallurgical knowledge of suitable materials for the hull. The selected steel required precise handling, cutting and welding. At times it appeared that Indian hull builders could not accomplish this, which added to manufacturing delays and cost overruns. Three extra years were added to perfect fabrication techniques. This explains why it took 10 years from the formal design to the actual commissioning of the submarine.

Two earlier attempts in the 1970s and 80s had been abandoned. The lease of the Russian Charlie-class submarine was critical for the Indians to learn its secrets.

Nevertheless, critical processes of the Arihant’s reactor are not yet functioning. For the uranium core reaction to sustain itself usually takes two to three years. However, every step is a new learning curve for Indian scientists, and taking it slowly is not a bad approach.

The Americans and Russians took shortcuts in their hurry to build seaworthy nuclear submarines. This resulted in the Russian submarine K-19 suffering a catastrophic nuclear reactor failure on its maiden sea voyage, while the United States lost its first nuclear submarine “Thresher” on a deep-diving drill. Three other Russian nuclear submarines have sunk, compared to two U.S. ones.

In short, commissioning a nuclear-powered submarine is a challenge, especially for India, which is new to the technology. China took 30 years to come up with its comparable 094-class submarine, commissioned for sea trial in 2004. Its earlier 093 class was a dud and for display only. It can prowl the South China Sea but cannot cross into the Indian Ocean. To overcome design problems the Chinese also had to purchase technology from Russia.

By 2013 India will have two nuclear submarines, one locally built and the other leased from Russia. Along with a French Scorpene submarine and a Russian upgraded aircraft carrier, India will have a formidable force positioned at the western mouth of the Strait of Malacca, should China ever decide to act in haste. Barring a few powerful Russian-built ships, China’s fleet is poor-quality reverse-engineered copies.

China unabashedly showed off its naval might in April this year with 25 vessels, two of which were nuclear submarines. It has built a large naval base at the southern tip of Hainan Island, with the capability to hide multiple nuclear submarines. Interestingly, concurrent to their naval display, China spread false rumors that a Chinese naval ship had forced an Indian submarine to surface off Somalia’s coast during pirate patrol duty. China later denied the incident, which is an indication of how seriously they view India’s naval developments.

With aircraft carriers, Scorpene submarines, Brahmos missiles and nuclear submarines, India’s naval punch is far superior to China’s. They can easily handle the Chinese if they cross the Strait of Malacca. China’s base in Hainan Island would be 13 days away, while India’s land bases would be only a day or two away. Besides, India’s land-based planes could keep the Chinese flotilla within its gun sights at all times.

Let India not hide its long-range power ambitions. Let China know that its interest in the Indian Ocean should be minimal. Pranksters in Pakistan cannot be ignored either, lest they stage another Mumbai-type attack and then brandish their nuclear weapons to counter Indian anger.

With nuclear weapons at sea, India can easily counter Pakistan’s threats. Pakistan has so far shown little concern beyond the usual displeasure from the foreign office. Its navy chief, Admiral Bashir Noman, is reportedly hoping that Arihant will not perform.

The INS Arihant is another milestone in India’s world power equation. The U.S. reaction has been lukewarm. The Americans don’t mind this new military development, but they don’t want to encourage it. They would prefer for India to play a bigger role in world politics. But sooner or later India must reverse its 2,300-year-old history of invaders looting, conquering and ruling it.

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(Hari Sud is a retired vice president of C-I-L Inc., a former investment strategies analyst and international relations manager. A graduate of Punjab University and the University of Missouri, he has lived in Canada for the past 34 years. ©Copyright Hari Sud.)



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KZ @ September 26, 2009 06:09AM HKT
092 was china's first ballistic submarine. It carries 12 JL-1 ballistic missiles, each delivers a HYDROGEN WARHEAD to 2000 KILOMETERS. This submarine became fully operational TWENTY ONE YEARS AGO(1988). It was tested to a depth of 300 meters in south china sea, had more than 20,000 km of sea trials.

091 is an attack submarine of the same first generation design. 093 is a 2nd generation nuclear attack submarine. 094 is 2nd generation ballistic missile submarine based on 093 design. 094 carries 12 JL-2 missiles, can deliver 72 warheads to 8000 kilometers.

I'm sorry, but Arihant is where China was in 1968. Even if it survives the trials and becomes operational in 30 years, it still won't carry a single medium range missile.


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Coolhead @ August 31, 2009 11:34PM HKT
"India's unmanned moon mission was called off after space scientists lost radio contact with the Chandrayaan-I craft." See something similar in history? Harsh reality.

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Coolhead @ August 22, 2009 09:52AM HKT
Admit it or not, only a half-baked reality.

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Coolhead @ August 22, 2009 09:46AM HKT
HariSud wrote: "Like it or not, India's nuclear submarine is a reality and China should be weary of it."

Like it or not, only a half-baked reality.

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IsItCorrect @ August 22, 2009 08:09AM HKT
"Like it or not, India's nuclear submarine is a reality and China should be weary of it." I am sorry, We do NOT. In us, china, uk, france, a nuclear reactor is installed before a sub launches. Now this one without nuclear reactor can not be called nuclear submarine. Let me tell you something, in us, china, for example, destroyer is laid down after it gets almost full loaded. After all of the construction finish, the destroyer get launched (break a champagne; in india, have a coconut). the difference between 093 and indian thing is just like the difference between champagne and coconut. One has been done, the other is raw.

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HariSud @ August 21, 2009 07:26PM HKT

Can we get on to a new topic. All of you have said enough.

Like it or not, India's nuclear submarine is a reality and China should be weary of it.


Cheers


Hari Sud

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Kyle @ August 21, 2009 11:24AM HKT
Sir Sud is my favorite humor author. Thanks for the years of entertainment. To Coolhead: Sir Sud thinks and writes in classic Indian logic. There is no way we will ever understand it. Long live the Hindu Cola!

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Coolhead @ August 21, 2009 02:28AM HKT
Hari Sud wrote: "There is no hurry to operationlize it. As long as China knows that it is on way."
Sounds quite self-comforting. Then I guess there is no hurry for China to worry about it. If history is any guide, test failures, weak reactor and cost overrun will leave it "on way" almost indefinitely. China is and will stay ahead of India with more and better submarines than India.

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HariSud @ August 21, 2009 12:03AM HKT

The author under the name "IsItCorrect" - see below

You have researched well. My compliments.

None of the sources you quote could be correct. Everything about the sub is under wraps, hence most sources are guessing.

There is only one fact which is well published i.e. nuclear reactor will not go critical for another 2-3 years. That is the time every nuclear submarine takes to go nuclear after being floated first time.

US with vast experience takes 18 months from first time free floating to go on its own power and dive.

Russian Akula II which is destined for India will take that long to go nuclear after it is floated first about 18 months back, save the time it will take to refurbish it after the fire mishap.

Chinese took four years after floating the 093 class first. It still is good for shallow dive in coastal waters.

Hence the argument made by this author about long time taken by Indians to have submarine on patrol duty immediately is invalid.

All submarines, nuclear or otherwise spend 8 to 18 months before they can be called operational.

There is no hurry to operationlize it. As long as China knows that it is on way.

Cheers


Hari Sud

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:35PM HKT
I like this one "the German Defense Professionals Daily stating that the Arihant "currently is little more than a floating hull" with no propulsion or weapon capabilities."

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:34PM HKT
From global security newswire

Indian Ballistic-Missle Sub Still Without Nuclear Reactor
Friday, Aug. 14, 2009

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:34PM HKT
India has not yet installed a functioning nuclear propulsion system on an experimental submarine intended to eventually carry nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, the Indo-Asian News Service reported yesterday (see GSN, July 30).

The INS Arihant, India's first indigenously built submarine, formally began sea trials late last month.

"If any of you are under the impression that [the submarine] made contact with water with an actual reactor fitted inside its hull you are mistaken," said one nuclear scientist close to the project.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:34PM HKT
According to earlier news reports, the vessel carried a replica of an 80-megawatt nuclear reactor displayed on Aug. 2.

"The media did not correctly report what was told to them by the Bhabha Atomic Research Center (BARC), or the officials deliberately did not want to be explicit beyond a point," the scientist said.

The researcher's claim was supported by a recent report in the German Defense Professionals Daily stating that the Arihant "currently is little more than a floating hull" with no propulsion or weapon capabilities.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:33PM HKT
India indicated in a recent statement that the submarine's reactor would not enter full-scale operation for at least one more year, the scientist noted. Additional testing would be necessary before the vessel can go to sea. Also, the researcher said, several more years would be necessary to install the vessel's weapon systems and test them in increasingly demanding conditions.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:33PM HKT
"Therefore, announcement of India's entry into the nuclear submarine club with a half-baked product without the nuclear reactor -- let alone the weapons systems -- is perhaps premature," the scientist said. "After all the project had remained under wraps for over 20 years and another few years would not have made a difference" (K.S. Jayaraman, Indo-Asian News Service/New Kerala, Aug. 13).

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:32PM HKT
from indian central chronicle

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:32PM HKT
India's nuke sub doesn't have working reactor
Category » Nation Posted On Thursday, August 13, 2009
Agencies
Bangalore, Aug 13:
India's nuclear submarine INS Arihant, launched on July 26, does not have a "working nuclear reactor" yet, says a nuclear scientist familiar with the project almost since its start.
"If any of you are under the impression that it made contact with water with an actual reactor fitted inside its hull you are mistaken," the scientist said.


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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:31PM HKT
The scientist echoes a report in Defence Professionals Daily, a German online publication, which says Arihant "currently is little more than a floating hull" without nuclear propulsion or weapons systems. The scientist, who did not want to be named as he was not authorised to speak to the media, was clarifying media reports implying that Arihant is propelled by nuclear power and that India has become the sixth nation to operate nuclear subs.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:31PM HKT
"I think the media did not correctly report what was told to them by the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC), or the officials deliberately did not want to be explicit beyond a point," he said.
The reports had said that Arihant is fitted with a nuclear power plant that is a replica of the secretly built 80-MW reactor at Kalpakkam near Chennai that was shown to the media Aug 2.
Building this land-based power plant -- for demonstration and training the naval personnel -- is no doubt a creditable achievement of BARC considering that "making the fuel tubes were a real challenge", the source said.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:31PM HKT
Besides, he said, it has proved India's ability to produce enriched uranium necessary for designing small enough reactors that can fit inside the submarine. The higher the enrichment, the smaller the size of the reactor and, according to the source, the Indian design uses 15 to 20 percent enrichment. The commercial Tarapur nuclear power plant, on the other hand, uses about three percent enriched imported uranium.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:31PM HKT
"However, to say a duplicate of this land-based reactor is already inside Arihant and working is not correct," he said. He pointed out that the official statement that Arihant's reactor will take at least a year to go critical is another way of saying there is no reactor core right now inside the hull since making a reactor critical only takes days, not months

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:31PM HKT
The scientist said several steps are involved after achieving criticality and the reactor must be fully tested before it is sent to the sea. Integrating the ballistic or cruise missiles will take time and a few more years are needed to prove the platform and its systems, first in harbour, then at sea and lastly, under water, at increasing depths.
"Therefore, announcement of India's entry into the nuclear submarine club with a half-baked product without the nuclear reactor -- let alone the weapons systems -- is perhaps premature," the scientist said.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:30PM HKT
"After all the project had remained under wraps for over 20 years and another few years would not have made a difference."
In contrast, although India was the fifth country to set up a nuclear reprocessing plant in 1964 even before Germany and China, the late Homi Bhabha, father of Indian atomic energy programme, announced the achievement only after it was commissioned and started to produce plutonium, he pointed out.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:30PM HKT
Nataraja Sarma, former BARC physicist and co-author of "Nuclear Power in India: A Critical History", says it makes safety sense to first check out the seaworthiness of the basic submarine without the reactor core and then assemble the reactor.
"Once big components like reactor vessel, heat exchangers and the lead shielding (for protecting crew from radiation) are transferred to the submarine before closing its shell, the remaining smaller components including the fuel assembly can be introduced later to complete the construction," he said.

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IsItCorrect @ August 20, 2009 11:30PM HKT
Arihant is far from reaching operational status but the coconut breaking that released it from the Visakhapatnam dry dock was nevertheless an important day for India, the scientists say. "What is significant about the launch is that now India has publicly acknowledged its quest to acquire a nuclear submarine and has shown it has the ability to design and build such a platform," Uday Bhaskar, a former naval commander and now head of the National Maritime Foundation, is quoted as saying in the journal.

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Kyle @ August 20, 2009 01:57PM HKT
I believe Hari Sud is in fact hired by China to write things like this. Seriously, what good will this idiotic article do for India? What India needs is more movies like "slumdog millionaire" which shows people what India truly looks like...

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Kyle @ August 20, 2009 01:51PM HKT
I have to say that Sir Sud's articles are the most powerful Indian weapon because people killed by laughing too hard after reading his writings will be far more than the people killed by any Indian weapon...

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Coolhead @ August 20, 2009 01:00PM HKT
DEVINDRA wrote: "As far as INS ARIHANT is considered I can imagine the shock in HKT / CHINA/ Taiwan."
Of course shocked because after 30 years, what India finally launched was only a floating hull with no nuclear reactor, sensors, or weapons at all.

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Coolhead @ August 20, 2009 12:30PM HKT
DEVINDRA,
If you call J-10 a copy of Lavi, then you should also call INS Arihant a copy of Charlie II.

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Coolhead @ August 19, 2009 11:05PM HKT
DEVINDRA,
Due to the inability of the Tejas to meet the Indian Air Staff requirements the India Air Force will not order any more Mark 1 aircraft (with the underpowered General Electric F-404 engines) other than the original 40 aircraft it had ordered in 2005. The Indian Army wants to cap production of indigenous Arjun tanks to 124 units, due to repeated trial failures and vast budget overruns. If history is any guide, I bet the Indian Navy won't like the performance and cost of the new submarine either. Yeah, yeah, you are full of hope that the perfect future versions are coming, but for India, unfortunately that usually means indefinite future.

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Coolhead @ August 19, 2009 10:36PM HKT
DEVINDRA,
J-10 may have some Israel Lavi (not Kfir) technologies, but definitely not a copy. Show proof that it is indeed a "copy", not just some tech. I have my proof below. Note the last sentence and India has not reached that point yet until TEJAS is completed, if it ever is. Also what is the proof to your claim that J10 is "not in the same class as (the incomplete) TEJAS mk1"? Comparing a real fighter in service to something to be completed in future does not make sense anyway. China is already working on its stealth fighter, probably already waiting if TEJAS mkx eventually becomes real.
www . electronicaviation . com|articles|Military|1106 (replace "|" with "/")
In the end, only the Lavi's airframe was used in the new Chinese fighter. ... John Pike, head of defense research firm GlobalSecurity.org, says it's wrong to dismiss the J-10 as an Israeli copy."The J-10 has Chinese characteristics," Pike said. "The lines (on its airframe) are indigenous. It's not a copy from anything else." He says the key is to recognize that China has reached a point where it can develop warplanes that aren't knockoffs of models from other nations.

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Kevin @ August 19, 2009 09:38PM HKT
to Professional DEVINDRA,
LCA fighter and Arjun tank projects are already a joke worldwide (not only in China/Taiwan/HK), and no need to defend for them.
OK, lets hope the new sub is not a joke. Lets wish that India can make everybody shut up.

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DEVINDRA @ August 19, 2009 04:22PM HKT
Hi everybody, I am an independent security analyst.I have served my country with distinction in the Indian armed forces,overseas&at home.As far as INS ARIHANT is considered I can imagine the shock in HKT / CHINA/ Taiwan.Please read open source literature fo eg LATEST FRONTLINE magazine on an interview with BARC Director.Desert face off for ARJUN vs T90S are beginning soon in the Thar desert,it will be very interesting.TEJAS, one squadron of 20 a/c are being inducted in IAF as mkI& THE UPRATED MK2 with new engine follows.As you must be aware J10 is a copy of 'kfir'of Israel& not in the same class as TEJAS mk1.see wikipedia.com.By the way the second nuclear sub is on its way soon for induction in a seamless process in 2010.

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Kevin @ August 19, 2009 02:24AM HKT
Just went through several articles from this Sir. Hari Sud, and obviously this man have a habit of imagining things. In all articles, firstly, *Historical facts* are piled up first, to make the article seemingly true, then Sir sud begins to use some blurred *facts* and his own imagination to boast the *power* of india. Finally, a conclusion is given that Indian is on the top of the world.
That is so funny! We should feel happy for Chinese people, because having a professional boaster oversea like Sir Hud can only make the unrealistic Indians more unrealistic.

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Coolhead @ August 18, 2009 10:02PM HKT
DEVINDRA,
Are you the marketing manager of this would-be submarine? Considering that India has a reputation for projects that can never be successfully completed, like Arjun tank and HAL Tejas, and India has never even designed and built their own non-nuclear submarine, it is almost ridiculous to get so excited so early., especially any comparison to China. China has already designed and built their own modern tank (type 99), fighter jet (J-10) and nuclear submarine (094), all of which have already been in service for years.

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LK @ August 18, 2009 09:18PM HKT
to DEVINDRA:

Another indian LCA fighter or indian Arjun tank joke?

A country can not make their riffle bullets,
and we don't believe that they had the technology
to make so sophisticate nuclear submarine.

Why is that India do not have the experience to build
their own conventional submarine and just want to build
more sophisticate nuclear submarine?

Indian government do not dare to show their nuclear submarine
that means another military joke record is going to make.

Probably a sunk forever nuclear submarine(probably
already had one conventional submarine sunk).
Please don't make any nuclear event that will pollute the earth.

Ha Ha.

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LK @ August 18, 2009 08:43PM HKT
>>Check your sources first and then comment

Have you done that before?
You are so stubborn and prejudiced.
Chinese government had never disclosed any 093 officially.
(So don't tell a lie like 093 is only for display,
Maybe 093 never exists.)

Your idiot articles had been revealed more in China.

If you had any comment on China,
please consult Chinese government officially.
You had made much more laughters in China.
They said Indian is so arrogant
that they can easily defeat India again
and divide India into many racial states(like Assam state).

I am living in Taiwan.


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DEVINDRA @ August 18, 2009 03:47PM HKT
INS Arihant is a nuclear powered sub with DE capability as a alternate power source.India has been operating DE subs for almost 40 years now.ON completion of HATS it will move to the SATS phase.The crew are trained,experienced nuclear submariners& skilled in launching underwater weapons& missiles.INS Arihant will be put through its paces rapidly in a dedicated manner.Open source literature indicates they have been living with their boat for quite a while now.The next 6 months will be interesting for one&all worldwide!What is certain is that this class of subs has caused more than a ripple& guesstimates are on!!

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Coolhead @ August 18, 2009 02:36PM HKT
The INS Arihant is now little more than floating hull without a reactor. It is years away from being commissioned. You call it comparable to Chinese 094-class submarine, which is already in service? You are jumping years ahead. When INS Arihant is eventually commissioned, the Chinese 096-class will already surpass it. You are really not in a position to call the Chinese fleet "poor-quality reverse-engineered copies". Also China has already developed and built their own AIP submarines (not Russian AIP technology), while India has no such capability at all.


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Kevin @ August 18, 2009 02:58AM HKT
Only idiots would believe such an article full of nonsense and prejudice.. Many indians have no shame at all boasting everything they have. e.g. many indians like to claim how much better Bombay is compared with Shanghai or Beijing, which is completely a joke.
Arihant saves india while 093 is a dud? come on! you think readers are idiots? OMG

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HariSud @ August 17, 2009 08:30PM HKT

Chinese from Taiwan are no different from their cousin in Beijing as they deal with others. It is between themselves they fight.

Malacca is two days away from Andaman Island of India which is a major naval and air base. It is located at the mouth of Malacca. Hainan is 13 days away that is as per Chinese sources.

093 Submarine is for show only. That is why a more seaworthy submarine 094 built so quickly after 093 to make a grade that too with Russian technology.

No Indian submarine ever sank. An indian submarine ran into an accident with a merchant vessel at the mouth of Mumbai harbor. Damage to the fin was quickly repaired.

Indian built nuclear submarine is in the sea. It is a reality. Check your sources first and then comment.


Hari

No Indian su

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LK @ August 17, 2009 07:57PM HKT
>>cross the Strait of Malacca. China’s base in Hainan Island would be 13 days away, while India’s land bases would be only a day or two away.

This is the big joke in the Chinese military forum.
Almost the same distance between China’s Hainan to Malacca and India to Malacca,
Chinese fleet takes 13 days to go and Indian fleet only need two days.

This is why I said that you are prejudiced and very seriously.

Another Indian joke is that I had remembered that India first home built
conventional submarine sunk on its first maiden sea voyage.

India have no actual fact to be able to build any submarine,
especially nuclear submarine.
Don't tell any lie.

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LK @ August 17, 2009 07:33PM HKT
This article is a joke in the Chinese military forum.
You called Chinese 093 "a dud",
At least Chinese have 6 091 ships operable and in services.
093 is the upgrade of 091 and had been classified,
and you would not know the Chinese classified materials.

It is full of the prejudiced people like you in India,
no wonder India had lost war to China in 1962.

You will lose any war to China again in the future.
I really feel pitiful that such person like you to fool Indian and
tell lies to fool the whole world.

I am living in Taiwan and had no obligation to China.

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DEVINDRA @ August 17, 2009 04:00PM HKT
India has no territorial ambition and will not coutenance the same by any other country.Nuclear technology of a high order has been achieved&INS Arihant is the visible product.Improvements are in the pipeline.As correctly enunciated we need to improve our economy further for that we need peace& security.Security will come rapidly now as the Indian Navy rapidly inducts her into operational service in a focused effort.

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DEVINDRA @ August 17, 2009 03:52PM HKT
Nuclear powered submarines fitted with India designed,tested& proven missiles each fitted with non-conventional warheads lurking in the IOR have shattered the garland of pearls strategy.With speed& reach of a thousand nautical miles at will underwater the sea control of north Indian ocean/Bay/Arabian sea is a reality.Furthermore the weak/non existant ASW capabilities of our neighbours have exposed their achilles heels.Most economic centres of Asian powers exist along their coastlines& imprudent behaviour towards us will bear heavy retaliatory cost.Such cost as a famous American said in the recent past quote..'..will take you back to stone age...' unquote.

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DEVINDRA @ August 17, 2009 03:30PM HKT
India's soft power&economic prowess is an acknowledged fact today.A glimpse of hard power is necessary as we live in a very tough neighbourhood.Two nuclear armed states are our neighbours&Iran likely to break into this club.The ARIHANT & her incoming sisters have given pause to jingoistic thinkers overseas as a missile armed nuclear sub represents a capability very very difficult to find.Furthermore in the asian context where India's primary aims are focussed for the forseeable future it is a capability non-paraeil.

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DEVINDRA @ August 17, 2009 03:20PM HKT
INS Arihant is a game changer&will give India sea control capability in the Indian ocean/Bay of Bengal/Arabian sea.These are India's littoral waters&vital to India's economic growth.Our political leadership desired the economic resurgence of the country since 1947.Dr Homi Bhaba,the doyen of our scientific community was accordingly tasked.It took 62 years but they have made the nation proud.Improved models of these subs are on the cards in an evolutionary process which will further enhance our security.

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DEVINDRA @ August 17, 2009 03:11PM HKT
Arihant is the fruit of India's quest for nuclear power status since independence.She&her sisters will achieve that by 2012.It also signals the maturity of industrial capabilities in India's public/private sectors.An eye opener for many.Proceeding carefully India constructed the subs nuclear power plant ashore called PRP at Chennai.It has been running for 3+years.Vital systems have been made by NPOL,NSTL,BDL,BEL,DRDL,DRDO,BARC,LRDE etc.L&T made the hull.She is fitted with underwater tested missiles of Indian origin.

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HariSud @ August 15, 2009 07:24PM HKT

How is the nuclear sub connected Bulochistan problem in Pakistan?

I would like to hear "CaptainJohann" to explain or shut up.

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captainJohann @ August 15, 2009 12:43PM HKT
sIR,
The sub is still without the nuclear reactor. It was launched in a hurry to coverup the goof up of Indian leadership about balochistan.It is the Russian submarine which is going to be of any use to India








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