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Toronto, ON, Canada, — The United States set China on the course to modernization and military power, but Chinese ambitions are running far ahead of the country’s publicly stated aims. It has no qualms about retaking Taiwan or the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh. It is time the United States tames China to avoid consequences like Japan’s backstabbing when it attacked Pearl Harbor during World War II.

At home and in the region, China is peddling influence with its military might. For example, it created a diplomatic and military tussle over border issues with India because Tibetan leader the Dalai Lama wished to visit the birthplace of one of his predecessors in India.

In Washington China is peddling influence with money power, based on its cash reserves deposited in U.S. banks and the U.S. Treasury. Without selling their goods unhindered in the United States the Chinese would not have the money power they enjoy today. Their economic success is key to their belligerence.

All this happened in the past 20 years since manufacturing was gifted by the United States to China to counter the former Soviet Union’s growing prowess. That diplomacy has now come full circle and the Chinese are exerting economic influence on the United States. Military pressure is not far behind.

China’s economy has leaped from US$300 billion in 1980 to $3.5 trillion today, while its military spending has gone from US$7 billion to $80 billion during the same period. In addition, it spends some US$30 to $40 billion on unaccounted secret projects.

Asia fears two things about China – its economic domination and its military might. China makes no excuses for its military posture. Not only does it want Taiwan and Arunachal Pradesh, but also other territories like Vladivostok port from the Russians. It is just waiting for the appropriate time.

When the United States began aiding the Chinese with foreign direct investment in the 1980s, it also opened its markets to duty-free imports from China. Concurrently the Chinese currency was deliberately valued low to give U.S. imports a price advantage. So the United States began closing down its factories and importing cheap Chinese goods.

Presently, around 150 million Chinese work in the manufacturing sector, which supplies everything that a consumer in the West needs. The result is an annual US$300 billion trade surplus with the United States alone. This money is then deposited in U.S. banks and is used to finance the U.S. debt. China has accumulated some US$2 trillion in U.S. and Western banks, and these deposits are becoming a tool for China to dictate their foreign policy.

Former U.S. Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton preoccupied themselves with the joy of the former Soviet Union’s collapse, while George W. Bush buried himself in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan during his term from 2000 to 2008. Due to their preoccupations, these presidents handed all advantages to the Chinese. Likewise, President Barack Obama is preoccupied with reforms like healthcare, education and banking and has paid little attention to the perils of the trade deficit.

In the next 10 years the Chinese economy is expected to grow at 8 to 10 percent, unless the yuan is revalued and China is forced to balance its trade. Unchallenged, its military expenditures are expected to increase at an exponential rate. Next, one might see the Chinese confronting the U.S. Seventh Fleet in the South China Sea. China would consider it a cakewalk to emerge victorious over Russia and India, and sees no reason to confront other small nations in Southeast Asia, which it considers its clients.

The strategic balance of the United States in world affairs is already slipping as it spends more time fighting financial collapse. China is most favored to take over if nothing is done to halt the U.S. decline. Although Russia has massive oil and gas influence, it is taking a long time to establish a new economic order.

China’s ambitions, kept in check for the past 30 years, have begun to slowly emerge. The new leadership dumped Mao Zedong’s tunic but continues to pursue his policies.

What is needed to stop the Chinese from this posture? Its economic clout has to be cut. First, the West has to untangle itself from the US$2 trillion deposited in their banks. Second, the yuan-dollar relationship has to be revised to give Western exports a head start and discourage Chinese imports. Third, manufacturing jobs need to be relocated back to the United States. Fourth, a commitment to defend Taiwan at any cost, including fighting a nuclear war, should be renewed. Fifth, a timetable must be set to balance trade with China.

An overconfident China is still puny compared to the economic and military might of the United States. China’s per head gross domestic product is US$2,600 compared to US$46,000 in the United States. China has been stealing technology to give itself a head start, although this is now being checked with more restrictions.

China’s naval power is nowhere near that of the United States. If Japan feels threatened and dumps its pacifist Constitution, the Chinese will have a bigger enemy to deal with near their borders. Also, a blockade of sea routes to the Middle East by India could severely hurt China’s export economy.

The United States’ inexplicable desire to borrow money is the main reason behind the rise of China’s political ambitions. The U.S. national debt stands at US$11.7 trillion, of which $2 trillion is China’s money. China knows that the United States cannot repay this anytime soon and therefore uses political and diplomatic power to influence its policy.

That is the reason for China’s hardened attitude toward the Dalai Lama and fresh moves against India. Recently, Obama refused to meet the Dalai Lama because he wanted to please China.

While the U.S. economy almost hit a depression in the past year, China’s economy managed 6 to 7 percent growth, which is a remarkable achievement.

All issues are likely to be discussed during Obama’s visit to Beijing early next week, but no noteworthy conclusions are expected. Obama has no achievements to show. His healthcare reform has bogged down while his popularity has suffered and losses in the recent gubernatorial elections are reverberating.

China’s emergence as a global power and its rapid growth have far-reaching consequences for the rest of the world, including the United States. This implies that China must be contained to avoid problems 10 years down the road. China’s export economy needs to be targeted, and nobody is in a better position to do that than the United States. In fact, it set them on this path and should control it.

Will China give up any of its advantages without a fight? It is highly unlikely. Just as China took 20 years to reach its present status, the United States will need 20 more to take it away.

China may start vetoing down U.S. resolutions at the United Nations. It may send aggressive naval patrols across the Taiwan Straits, or finance armed rebellions all over U.S.-influenced territories in Africa and South America.

Therefore the United States should do everything it can to contain China’s influence. Once its economic expectations are hit hard, it will come around sooner or later. Curtailing China’s ambitions should be the highest foreign policy priority for the United States. Without that, the long-term future of the United States is in peril.

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(Hari Sud is a retired vice president of C-I-L Inc., a former investment strategies analyst and international relations manager. A graduate of Punjab University and the University of Missouri, he has lived in Canada for the past 34 years. ©Copyright Hari Sud.)



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maqbool @ March 9, 2010 05:20PM HKT
May I ask the "Coolhead" to read the article I have written especially for a class of people like him; who dis-regard what an Indian can do. It was our instrument, CHACE which found the direct evidence of water on 14th November, 2008. Wake up guys... look back... the sun is rising on Indian soil too. "Mera Bharat Mahaan".. Come on cheer up..

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sara @ November 29, 2009 05:38PM HKT
I Have explained u the concept of MIP and the CHACE instrument in the chandrayyan-1 .this shows still u dont understand what is that and repeating the same point .U will never accept the valid points i raised but i accepted that chandrayaan-1 didnt last for 2 years .So come out of this narrow minded thinking and try to understand what other people are saying

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Coolhead @ November 29, 2009 01:15PM HKT
sara: India did not find water on moon because its "findings" were very weak, so weak that India did not have enough evidence and confidence to announce it until NASA announced their own findings. If NASA had not announced it, India probably would not have announced their "findings" either.

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sara @ November 28, 2009 08:12PM HKT
So what will u say about the findings made my chandrayyan-1 which i have given proof .I accept the mission didnt last for 2 years but the objective is met
which is finding water in moon .So what is issue of not lasting for 2 years actually its good bcoz that raised the confidence about ISRO in world community
very early

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Coolhead @ November 28, 2009 11:46AM HKT
sara: failure with a reason is still a failure. The mission was expected to operate for 2 years, but only lasted for 312 days. How miserable! The whole mission was riddled with problems. The temperature problem happened earlier and the cause of the final abortion was not known because contact was lost, just silence. Then there was another problem: the two sensors for direction finding failed in orbit. The first of the sensors failed on April 26. The second failure, detected on May 16, was attributed to excessive radiation from the Sun. Oh, yeah, not lagging, just a failed mission...as always.

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sara @ November 27, 2009 02:05AM HKT
Hey coolhead they lost the contact bcoz of under-estimating the temperature of moon and making the components for a defined temperature .So the point is i accept this is amistake but i am talking about the technical knowledge for sending such a mission which india is not lagging behind

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Louis @ November 24, 2009 08:05PM HKT
24 Nov 2009-India failed in its much-hyped `Agni pariksha’(Agni 2) on Monday. Though the attempt to launch a missile for the first time during night was a feather in its cap, the test reportedly failed to achieve the pre-coordinated mission parameters.

I heard somebody said here before Agni 3 can bomb Beijing by next year.

See how Indian trumpeting. They talk big big before they do it. But when you see their result, you will just cry his mother god, what is this?

Even now I very much worry if Agni 2 was nuke-loaded, it would exploded on its launch side, killing millions of civilian. That's why Hari Sud now is far away in Canada watching and crying of war with China.

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Louis @ November 24, 2009 07:40PM HKT
India enemy is its own corrupted politicians, no-heart people like Hari Sud.

Its people like slopy , Tim, Hari Sud do not even care for its people's no-toileting. They laugh when you discuss toilet with them. For them it is pariah Indian problem, they are Brahmin as they think of themselves. They are in Canada living comfortably and want war with China. Damn it, Hari Sud, send your sons to the front line to becomes fire-ash of India.

Give your ass thinking of how to solve India basic problems like no-food, no-toilet, high-farmer-suicital, you damn like it caste-system, human right. Can you now move your ass back here and ask your ass to think now?

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jimmy @ November 24, 2009 03:39PM HKT
Typical trash from Hari Sud. Does Hari Sud still got any creditability from his trash talking.

Instead of barking at China, Hari Sud should examine the nasty rhetoric and behavior from his own nest -- India government and India elites..

Facing a fast growing China, India elites have become a bunch of anxious, immature and rude children with a mad and crazy mindset.

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Coolhead @ November 24, 2009 02:09PM HKT
sara: speaking of "ISRO capability", don't forget that ISRO lost contact with Chandrayaan-1, mission aborted. Also in the news, another showcase of Indian capability:
Agni-II missile fails to clear night trial
TNN 24 November 2009, 12:28am IST

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Louis @ November 24, 2009 12:44AM HKT
Quoting Wiki: ''India's first lunar moon mission Chandrayaan-1 has helped NASA find water on the moon's surface. NASA's Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3) on board Chandrayaan found the evidence of water molecules on the surface of the moon.''

A USA hired Indian worker dig the ground, his master USA said ''stop.'' Analyzing the soil with USA instrument which is on the Indian's back as he is asked so by USA. USA said: 'Water is in there'.
The Indian hurrays, exclaimed back home that he found the water.

But back there in all USA papers and the world say: NASA found the water.

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Coolhead @ November 24, 2009 12:08AM HKT
sara, the reality is that ISRO only has IRNSS on paper right now, no matter how easy you call it. Even so, it is at "regional" level; while China's Compass is at global level and already has satellites launched. So India is lagging behind China.

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sara @ November 23, 2009 10:23PM HKT
So u have not understood what i am saying still u are keep on saying the same point .i have given lot of example for showing ISRO capability .This shows
u have a poor Grasping poor .and its waste talking to u

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Coolhead @ November 23, 2009 10:31AM HKT
sara: "DEveloping and launching IRNSS is a simple task for ISRO". Oh, yeah, anything that Indian cannot is easy to do. Pathetic.

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sara @ November 22, 2009 11:17PM HKT
hey coolhead dont always misinterpret what i am saying when did i say that Chandrayyan-1 was the first craft to discover water i was explaining u the MIP and i referred one more instrument called "CHACE" developed by ISRO which has also detected the signs of water by this i want to show india's capability u first said it was M3 which discovered water then i given link for MIP and CHACE by this i am trying to say DEveloping and launching IRNSS is a simple task for ISRO .And also through MIP u can detect water this answer to ur question about M3 which u have said bcoz of this NASA instrument Chandrayaan discovered water Answer to me first whether u have understood MIP or not

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Coolhead @ November 22, 2009 12:31PM HKT
sara: chandrayyan-1 is not the first craft to find water on moon. The NASA Cassini and NASA Deep Impact both found water on moon several years ago.
"without knowing all this dont simply talk like hothead", duh.

foxnews.com /story/0,2933,554740,00.html

Cassini, which passed by the moon in 1999 on its way to Saturn, provides confirmation of this signal with its own slightly stronger detection of the water/hydroxyl signal...
The Cassini data shows a global distribution of the water signal, though it also appears stronger near the poles (and low in the lunar maria).

Finally, the Deep Impact spacecraft, as part of its extended EPOXI mission and at the request of the M3 team, made infrared detections of water and hydroxyl as part of a calibration exercise during several close approaches of the Earth-Moon system en route to its planned flyby of comet 103P/Hartley 2 in November 2010.
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"The Deep Impact observations of the Moon not only unequivocally confirm the presence of [water/hydroxyl] on the lunar surface, but also reveal that the entire lunar surface is hydrated during at least some portion of the lunar day," the authors wrote in their study.

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Coolhead @ November 22, 2009 11:55AM HKT
sara: Indian had moon impact probe does not mean that they discovered (i.e. the first to announce) water on moon. From your wikipedia link:
The Indian "announcement was made AFTER the discovery of water was announced on September 24, 2009 by Science magazine by the NASA payload Moon Mineralogy Mapper carried on board Chandrayaan-1."
So it is clear that NASA was the FIRST to announce it and India simply "re-discovered" water on moon.

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sara @ November 21, 2009 11:15PM HKT
I asked u do you know what is moon impact probe ur answer shows u dont know that . After chandrayyan-1 NASA again send the probe into moon for discovery of more water bloomberg.com /apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=ajW2OloS8Ohk in the above link it will be mentioned how nasa is trying to find more water by crashing the probe .By this u should understand Moon-impact-probe is also a way of finding the signs of water in the respectve pole where the rocket is launched .I said india has dont this probe and detected water .For ur better understanding about this Mip see this link en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Moon_Impact_Probe And there is also one more instrument called "CHACE" this has also detected water which is developed by ISRO
without knowing all this dont simply talk like hothead

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Coolhead @ November 21, 2009 12:02AM HKT
sara: Oh, after NASA first discovered, everyone can claim they also saw it coming. "waited for the
result to published in science journal", what a laughable excuse. If India is so confident, why not just announced it right away before NASA? Then how come India changed its mind to announced it one day after NASA announced it? Usually this kind of event is not first announce by publishing in a journal. India can only follow what NASA does. That's why no other Western news agency reported your story - only the first discovery is called discovery, you don't need to re-discover.


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sara @ November 20, 2009 06:28PM HKT
Hey coolhead Hope u know what is Moon Impact Probe during this india has found water in the moon and also M3 Mapper of America is also used to find the water
The proof is see this link domain-b.com /aero/space/spacemissions/20090925_isro_moon.html Isro waited for the
result to published in science journal So dont simply talk like a hothead without knowing the facts


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Coolhead @ November 20, 2009 11:57AM HKT
sara: "india will be like ur country in the coming years".
But China is moving ahead fast. So Indian will be like today's China eventually hopefully, but by that time, China is way ahead again. Right now the gap is getting bigger.

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Coolhead @ November 20, 2009 11:11AM HKT
sara, based on the official top500 list, it is still fair to say that India does not have their own supercomputer technology. They just bought from HP. I have already told you before, but you never checked out the official list and now wasting time to repeat the same nonsense.

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Coolhead @ November 20, 2009 11:08AM HKT
sara: the top500 list is announced twice a year in June and Nov of each year. Your Apr. 2009 article is talking about the list one year ago. It says "India with the 13th fastest supercomputer in the world, just three places away from China and two from Germany". Look at the official list, the vendor of that "Indian" supercomputer is HP, an American company! It is American technology, not Indian!

top500.org /list/2008/11/100

13 Computational Research Laboratories, TATA SONS
India EKA - Cluster Platform 3000 BL460c, Xeon 53xx 3GHz, Infiniband / 2008
Hewlett-Packard

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Coolhead @ November 20, 2009 11:04AM HKT
sara: china sent human into space 6 years ago and completed its first space walk last year. Where is India?

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Coolhead @ November 20, 2009 10:51AM HKT
sara: the water on moon was actually detected by one of the two NASA (not Indian) instruments called the Moon Mineralogy Mapper(M3) instrument aboard Chandrayaan-1 craft. So the water was not detected by Indian instrument at all.

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sara @ November 20, 2009 05:05AM HKT
Hey coolhead who said india's supercomputer are old
resources.ipott.com /itclarity/2009/04/india-is-world-no4-in-supercomputers/
see the baove link which is the report of 2009 india is ranked no.4 in the world
in supercomputers

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sara @ November 20, 2009 04:02AM HKT
Try to understand the meaning of Lagging china,india both have moon mission so india is not much lagging behind i dont want to make comparison in defence as we have discussed about china copied program if u take pakistan and india the later dont even have a satellite of its own so i will say pakistan is lagging behind india .But that is not the case with india and china in all the crtical fields u have mentioned india will be like ur country in the coming years .And in IT india is ahead of china but when u compare india and pakistan there is not Much IT capability for pakisatn so still pakistan is lagging behind .So this is the meaning of lagging behind. When the opponent is competing with u and doing better u cant say he is lagging this apply to india very well try to understand

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sara @ November 20, 2009 03:54AM HKT
Hey coolhead chandrayaan discovered water on the moon which is the actual mission this is even confirmed by NASA u dont even know this simple news or are u trying to hide this fact and u have asked questions like
But how about supercomputers? How about telecommunication equipment used by the phone companies (Huawei, ZTE...)? Navigation satellite system (similar to GPS, China has Compass navigation system)? Nuclear submarines .This shows that u are trying to say india dont even have the capabilities for developing all this what i have posted is to show that india have the capabilities to do all this. u can say N-sub will come after 2012 but the Sub is developed and testing is started the same applies to ur computer related questions .U know that india is ahead of china in IT-Field which is the dificult job That's y i am trying make ur hothead mind understand india is coming in all this fields as we have surpassed u in IT we will do it in other field also

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Coolhead @ November 19, 2009 10:55PM HKT
It is fine for India to lag behind China like many other countries. But what puzzles me is that there are these paranoid hothead Indians like Hari Sud and the nasty "slope" kid who claim that India is much better than China. What a joke.

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Coolhead @ November 19, 2009 10:51PM HKT
sara: the point is that India is many steps behind China. Their supercomputers are much slower than the Chinese ones. Their plans are always delayed with lots of problems, therefore your plan for the Regional (China's is GLOBAL, not regional) Satellite System and nuke sub will surely be delayed for many years beyond 2012. Sure, I remember chandrayaan-1 that failed to complete its mission:

NEW DELHI, Aug. 31 (UPI) -- India's unmanned moon mission was called off after space scientists lost radio contact with the Chandrayaan-I craft, the space agency said.

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sara @ November 19, 2009 02:05PM HKT
again you are talking like only china can develop all this critical technology and india cant the link i posted for supercomputer will prove that is wrong .And coming to regional satellite It is a simple task for ISRO to develop and launch that which will be done in 2012 so again ur points are wrong we have launched chandrayaan-1 to moon remember that .And india also have the capability of building N-SUB which will enter the service in 2012 so to conclude now india can lag behind china but we are never inferior to china
Which is evident when u see all the links posted by me So dont think that china is great country and india cant come near to that

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sara @ November 19, 2009 01:57PM HKT
Hey coolhead see the BBC News about india's supercomputer developed locally in banglore //news.bbc.co.uk /2/hi/south_asia/2906865.stm and one more super computer called kabru is also developed in india w.siliconindia.com /shownews/Meet_Kabru_Indias_second_fastest_computer___-nid-23912.html The point i want to make is u are talking like india dont have the capability to develop Supercomputer the above link will prove that ur point is wrong

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Coolhead @ November 19, 2009 05:57AM HKT
sara: in the world top 500 supercomputer list, only 3 are *located* in India and they are all bought from the American company HP. Even so, they are still slower than China's top 2. China's top 3 supercomputers are all 100% Chinese-made. What a big insult you got for yourself!
top500.org /country/92
top500.org /country/42

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Coolhead @ November 19, 2009 05:48AM HKT
sara: that "Indian" supercomputer (named EKA) you gave is actually made by the American company HP. Tata Sons only paid for it. It's actually HP technology, not Indian at all. What a joke and self-insult for you!

top500.org /system/9020

System Name EKA
Site Computational Research Laboratories, TATA SONS
System Family HP Cluster Platform 3000BL
Vendor Hewlett-Packard
Installation Year 2007

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Coolhead @ November 19, 2009 01:44AM HKT
sara, one more thing that India is not capable of making: high-speed rail.
dc.streetsblog.org /2009/11/18/general-electric-inks-high-speed-rail-deal-with-chinese-government/
"China's Ministry of Railways will license high-speed rail technology to GE." "While GE currently is the world leader in locomotive diesel-electric and electronic control systems technology, China currently is a leader in high-speed rail technology for speeds of 220 miles per hour."

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Coolhead @ November 18, 2009 10:39PM HKT
sara:
1)The INS Arihant is now only an empty hull with nothing in it - no nuclear reactor, no weapon systems. Way too early to call it a nuke sub.
2)This Indian Regional Navigational Satellite System is still only on paper with no satellite launched so far. Way too early to call it a reality.
3)This article about Indian supercomputer is two years old. In the current top100 list, there is NO indian-made supercomputer.
4) Those India telecom companies are only small resellers/integrators of foreign products or make some small simple devices. None of them can provide end-to-end 3G solutions. Look at this Reuters list showing the top 6 global companies, 2 of which are Chinese. No Indian company is at this level.
reuters.com /article/earningsSeason/idUSL561822720090505

I am not deviating the topic because the top is that India is lagging way behind China.

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sara @ November 18, 2009 02:58PM HKT
As i have mentioned clearly u have deviated the topic but still for ur pooer knowledge i am answering ur point
1)India has launched INS Arihant nuclear submarine
2)en .wikipedia.org /wiki/Indian_Regional_Navigational_Satellite_System
The above link talks about india's navigation satellite which will be implemented by 2012
3)etalkindia .com /computer_technology_news_it_forum/india_now_has_words_4th_fastest_super_computer_developed_by_tata-t1074.0.html
The above link talks about supercomputer developed by india which is the 4th fastest
4)explore .oneindia.in /industry/telecom/hardware/
This link talks about india's telecom hardware manufacturer
U are inviting insult of your own .Now again u will deviate the topic

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Jatt @ November 18, 2009 02:19AM HKT
Olive: PM's Asia tour masks harsh reality - November 17, 2009 Toronto Edition

Yet for all its headline-grabbing dynamic growth this decade, India still has the world's biggest poor population. At 400 million people, India's destitute would, on their own, be the world's third-most-populous country.

India ranks 45th in the latest Legatum Prosperity Index, which measures quality of life and economic progress in 104 nations accounting for 90 per cent of the world's population.

It is held back by malnutrition affecting one in five Indians, an average life expectancy of just 53 years and a severely inadequate health care system. With a GDP of about $1 trillion (U.S.), this nation of 1.2 billion people still trails in size the $1.2 trillion (Canadian) economy of Canada.

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Coolhead @ November 18, 2009 02:13AM HKT
sara, alright, India does make AC and PCs. But how about supercomputers? How about telecommunication equipment used by the phone companies (Huawei, ZTE...)? Navigation satellite system (similar to GPS, China has Compass navigation system)? Nuclear submarines (China's first was commissioned in 1974 and now they already have 2nd generation)?
top500.org /lists/2009/11
In the November 2009 list of the fastest supercomputers in the world, #5 is made by China.

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sara @ November 17, 2009 02:19PM HKT
Hey Louis who is talking big i am just replying to the comments of coolhead
and i am talking the facts which will never doom my country .So wat point are u trying to make be clear in that

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sara @ November 17, 2009 02:17PM HKT
Hey coolhead see the following link
bluestarindia.com /about /default.asp bluestar is an indian company which is manufacturing AC .Hope this will improve ur knowledge about india
And now when i have shown proof for PC Manufactuing u left that point .I guess now u will deviate the topic and ask me some other question .My request is before talking something know the facts

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Coolhead @ November 17, 2009 12:19AM HKT
sara, since Hitachi is a Japanese company, does any Indian company make AC?

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sara @ November 16, 2009 01:55PM HKT
Hey coolhead who said we in banglore are using china's computer see this link to know about that findouter.com /Asia/India/Computers_and_Internet/Computer_Manufacturers
Hcl system ,IBM ,LG all these are having manufactuing centre's in india where HCL is a indian company And to know about AC see this link
hitachi-hli.com /secondFactory.html Hitachi a japan company opened a large manufacturing centre in india So dont keep on sying false message to everyone

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Coolhead @ November 16, 2009 11:11AM HKT
Obama unlikely to push China hard on currency
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger, Ap Economics Writer – Sun Nov 15, 1:00 pm ET

WASHINGTON – In his visit to Beijing this week, President Barack Obama is expected to tread lightly when pressing China to let its currency rise against the dollar.

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Coolhead @ November 16, 2009 11:05AM HKT
spoope, your malnourished brain is too dumb to understand the huge difference between "discord" and "contain". Boycott? Are you talking to yourself in your silly dream? Who is gonna listen to you? Even the Indians are buying lots of stuff from China because they cannot make those things by themselves such as telecommunication equipment, air conditioners... Those PCs used in Bangalore office buildings, where are they made? China. Too bad you cannot afford a Chinese AC, hothead.

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Coolhead @ November 16, 2009 10:36AM HKT
spoope, the point is that even though China is poor, China is still a lot richer than India.

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slope @ November 16, 2009 12:23AM HKT
Hey chink_dump cooliehead:
Q. How does china keep their poverty rate so low?
A. htt p://answers.yahoo.co m/question/index?qid=20080304124453AAl2G1r

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slope @ November 15, 2009 10:18PM HKT
OREO spik. na na ana, you ain't no spik but spik sh!t who believes to be the descendant of dutch/english. unfortunately, the damn mirrors discriminate ya .... show your image otherwise :-)
I posted a link for that chink_dump cooliehead showing him his richest nation on earth.

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slope @ November 15, 2009 10:14PM HKT
check out this recent video filmed by taiwanese.
htt p://ww w.virtualreview.or g/china/zoom/271915/poverty-in-china-by-rose-mwa

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Coolhead @ November 15, 2009 02:37PM HKT
To be fair, some things do change in India. From 1950 to1968 the amount of slums in Mumbai increased 18%, in the 1970s they had a huge surge and by 1980 slum dwellers were half of the entire city's population. Today slum dwellers make up 60% of Mumbai's population, that is approximately 7 million people. They eventually spread into the areas neighboring Byculla, such as Mahim Creek, Parel, Dadar and Matunga and whereever else they can find space, even in roads.

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Coolhead @ November 15, 2009 02:26PM HKT
It looks like some paranoid Indians want to contain China, but they realize that India is no match to China, so they dream that US will do it for them. Since President Nixon, no US president ever adopted the policy of containing China. Nor will Obama or any future president. So those paranoid Indians look really desperate and pathetic.

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Louis_ @ November 15, 2009 01:59PM HKT
Whole world can criticize China for not democratic, but no Indian can do that, for democracy has never changed India in the slightest sense. India today is still the same compare to British India according to Naipaul.

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Coolhead @ November 15, 2009 01:57PM HKT
spoope, of course I know that you can lie too.

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Coolhead @ November 15, 2009 01:55PM HKT
Hari Sud,
Don't sound like US has been doing charity work to China. Even dummies won't believe that. Exporting manufacturing jobs to China allows US companies to become more profitable in America, and expand their better-paying advertising, service and development departments at home. Chinese factories hold down the price of everyday goods for Americans. One study, cited in “China: The Balance Sheet” (Public Affairs, 2006), said that, on average, America is about $70 billion a year richer because of trade with China. Now you should understand why American consumers, or even Indian consumers, are so happy to buy so much from China? Do tell me that they buy from China because China force them to.

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Louis_ @ November 15, 2009 01:47PM HKT
Only Caste and trumpet-blowing have changed India.

Democracy can not change India. As Nobel prize winner Naipaul said, nothing much change in India now from British India then when he visited India.

No system suits India now except Caste system where India view they are always on top but also always after the West.

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slope @ November 15, 2009 04:40AM HKT
Only democracy can change china.
htt p://ww w.strategypage.co m/qnd/china/articles/20091112.aspx

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slope @ November 15, 2009 12:48AM HKT
cooliehead the chink_dump! china lied everytime it was questioned about proliferating nuke tech to the pakis but the 'paki'stinian hero admitted that china showed them how to make nukes and gave two bombs worth uranium as well. who has been vetoeing usa on iranian sanctions by the way? what makes you think that only china can lie? anyone who trusts usa will end up as a biggest loser. what americans say is not what americans do, i guess same as the ying yangs and the ding dongs. interestingly, obama's popularity at home has been vanishing and 68% think he is a waste.

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Shenzhou @ November 14, 2009 06:07PM HKT
Perhaps, India being the "biggest" democracy nation in the face of the earth can one day do away with its ridiculous caste system. This may then be a turning point of having a more stronger India to start its national building on Chinese scale of things.

Perhaps if India did not fight between Islam and Hinduism then there will today still be one united India instead of a breakaway state of Pakistan.

But I understand it will be to India interest to have a contained China or even a weak China or a China divided into 7 different "kingdoms". Just like it will be to the advantage of China to have everyone else contained and never be humiliated again by anyone again.

I do not think USA or EU are too worried about China rising.(Afterall you cannot stop a well nourished infant baby in all normalcy growing up into a normal 7ft tall adult, right?) Cannot say the same for Russians, after all Chinese presence in at least part of the Russia Far East exceed 1000 years before Russian told the then weak Manchu Empire that it will look after the Chinese Far East territories on the Manchu Chinese behalf.

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Coolhead @ November 14, 2009 03:11PM HKT
Dream on, paranoid hotheads. Unfortunately the reality will definitely disappoint you.

latimes.com /news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-obama-asia14-2009nov14,0,3824231.story

Obama speaks of cooperation with China
In a speech in Tokyo, President Obama addresses issues such as human rights and openness, but makes it clear that the U.S. does not see China as a strategic threat whose rise must be checked.

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Karmaman @ November 14, 2009 01:12AM HKT
China only wnats to enslave its neighbours. Its hierarchy has never known democracy and will undermine any neighbour that practices it. The free world has to stand up to now or regret it later. Tibetians should be supported to recover their country. US, Japan, mIndia and Australia will need to contain China npw or pay the price later.

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Louis_ @ November 14, 2009 12:11AM HKT
Ill author's knowledge on not just history facts but poor mastering of logic that determines one as a good writer or just a bullshit.

According to Harisud's logic, USA should point its gun to its citizen to stop buying from China and buy from India instead. If the becoming of China is and was determined by USA, why not then in the very first beginning, USA bought from India, gave India nuclear, babyfed India to become a 'China' instead of letting China to become 'China'.

The developing of human history is a kind of progressiveness of unbending forces that determined by its own people wisdom and real-political trends that nobody including USA nor the rest of the world combined nor God himself including all the gods of India can alter.

The rise or fall or just a mediocre India is determined by its own people wisdom, way of life; external forces are just relatively unimportant factors.

I believe that if India is to become more humble and realistic in its own issues and try to solve them down-to-earthly without blowing trumpets around, for sure no power in the world can stop the rise of India-The-Super-Great-Power, not even India himself can stop himself.

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Jan.Wang @ November 13, 2009 11:38PM HKT
OH, I regret you wrote this article when you actually do not know China really. Many of your judgments and memories on some China-U.S. issues are just wrong and not the facts. I hope you can read history first and then write. I really doubt why the United Press has you write the article and even published it.

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slope @ November 13, 2009 10:32PM HKT
Nice article. but will give an upset stomach to slopehead coolie and oreo luigi

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slope @ November 13, 2009 10:17PM HKT
taming the mother of all terrorisms might just be too late and war being the only option.
"A nuclear power's act of proliferation"
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